Once Matt returned to work a few weeks after arriving back in the states, he was asked to do interviews for his company about his experience in Bangladesh. This prompted me to interview him, both as a practice round for him and a nice ending for the blog. What follows is the interview highlights (because those of us who know how Matt tells stories realize that no one has time to read the entire transcript straight through…)
Val: So how does it feel to be back in New York?
Matt: It’s surprising how little things have changed. I haven’t really had the reverse culture shock that I thought I would. I feel like you could put me right back in Bangladesh in what is a ridiculously different culture and lifestyle, or I can be here in New York, neither would feel too strange. I definitely feel I have changed. I can now call more places home.
Anything here in the states that you’re glad to have back in your life?
Chipotle, sushi, air conditioning, internet, clean toilets, safe drinking water in my office at work, credit and debit cards…
Do you miss anything from Bangladesh already?
Amdad-bhay [our driver]. He became a good friend, always having a huge smile each morning to greet me as I came down the stairs. I miss playing basketball at the American club. Going out into the rural areas and seeing all of the lush green. And I miss the look on rural villagers' faces just before they see me, before their day has been interrupted by the sighting of possibly the first white person they’ve ever met.
What Bangla words/phrases do you think will stick in your vocabulary?
SomoSa [problem], ektu bangla bolte pari [I speak a little Bangla], tikase [okay], and bhalo thaken, abar dekha hobe [take care, see you again]
Tell me some lessons you learned in Bangladesh.
That people are hungry for opportunities, they're not looking for a handout. They want a chance to work hard, do something meaningful, and be paid fairly for their work. And happiness is what you have divided by what you want.
Was anything about your experience just ridiculously beyond what you could have possibly imagined?
Human deformities: I’ve seen many poor desperate people in big cities in America, but I’ve never seen people as physically mutilated as the people I would see everyday right outside our house in Gulshan [our neighborhood].
The office hierarchy: even very senior people didn’t have the ability to directly communicate their ideas or perspectives, and the art of subtle non-spoken communication is much more important that spoken or written communication.
What impact did your work project have on your Bangladesh experience?
It’s made me more passionate about finding innovative ways of delivering healthcare. Yes, healthcare is extremely expensive in the US, but it doesn’t have to be. It’s much cheaper in other parts of the world, yet so many people lack access to even the most basic treatment, very cheap stuff that could save or improve lives. This has made me think about creative ways to provide more care, to refine health systems to reach more people. To be honest, this experience has given me more pride in my company, that they would be willing to invest in me and invest in this partnership to send me to Bangladesh.
What impact do you think you had on Bangladesh?
I think there are some straightforward work-related ideas that I developed to improve the health clinics, and I hope that many of these are implemented and prove to be successful. Beyond that, many of the Bangladeshis I worked with had little or no real life exposure to an American before, and some of these people became my really good friends. The word Shawoun [one coworker/friend] kept using was “gentle”, how he was surprised at my gentleness. I don’t really know what that means, but I think they have this perception of the overcharging, hard-bearing American. I know it’s a cliché, but really when it comes down to it, we are so much more similar than we are different.
What did you learn about yourself throughout this experience?
That I can live in one of the 10 most unlivable cities on the planet with a very challenging work project and sensitive cultural issues on top of it, and find a way to not only survive but actually enjoy it, I mean really really enjoy the process. That I’m adaptable. Our bodies have an amazing ability to adapt to a new environment. You can go on a rickety old bus through really rural foreign areas and stay in shady hotels and eat whatever the random local food is that they serve, and for the most part you’re gonna be okay.
Give me your number one piece of advice for someone considering moving to Bangladesh.
Take protein bars unless you want to lose twenty pounds in the first month. Until you find the good restaurants, that is.
When you’re 80 years old telling stories to your grandkids, what will your “Bangladesh Story” be?
I don’t want to tell them, I want to take them. In fifty years, Bangladesh will be so much more prosperous and developed that they wouldn’t believe my stories anyway.
Now that’s it’s over, summarize your experience in one word.
I knew you were going to say that . . . (laughs) . . . fascinating.
This is Val here again. I would agree that Bangladesh is a fascinating place, one that makes you grow and explore and question and re-prioritize and adapt. I loved my experience there and traveling through southeast Asia this summer, all of it, from the challenges to the adventures. I also have to say that writing a blog was a fascinating exercise in itself, one that was both frustrating and immensely satisfying. It's not always easy to distill your everyday experiences into readable bites for family and friends who are half a world away, especially not when your "everyday experiences" are completely foreign to you and them. All that said, I just wanted to thank everyone who has read this blog and somehow let us know of their enjoyment. We loved our experience and are happy that you became a part of it through these pages.
